PHP is not Perl
Sometimes when I can't bring myself to work on Thinking in Java 4e anymore, I've learned a little about PHP. Sounds kind of sick, I know, but it's actually refreshing in a kind of "green fields, unlimited possibilities" way.
I skimmed through a couple of books before settling on John Coggeshall's "PHP 5 Unleashed." His voice is good, and the book has a feeling of being carefully crafted.
I had somehow gotten the impression that PHP was a kind of Perl derivative, probably from the '$' before the variables. As I learn about it, however, it seems more like C than anything else. C with '$'s in front of the variables.
It also seems very consistent and well thought-out. Language features seem to follow logically from each other and so far I haven't found anything particularly surprising -- no special cases. Of course, I am getting on board at PHP 5, which seems to have worked out all the kinks, and added objects, which seem to be an amalgam of C++ and Java (mostly Java) with '->' instead of '.' for member selection.
It feels slightly weird to say this, as if, for some reason, I shouldn't like PHP. But I do. It looks like they learned well from other languages, and doesn't seem hacky all (again, my perspective is PHP5).
Of course, I'm aware of the problems of mixing presentation with model, and that at some scale this will probably start causing problems. But I also see the value of it -- if you stay below a certain size and complexity, mixing the two makes it much easier to program. And for me, web stuff is just something I need to get done so that it works, in the most expedient fashion. So I think, when I start building dynamic pages, that I will give PHP a try. I don't know that this is where I'll end up, but it seems promising. Plus it has a boatload of people who are using it, and apparently lots of good libraries. The fact that it is supported on most web hosting providers has a lot of appeal, as well.
I'm not giving up Zope, though. For what I know how to make it do, it works fine. For now, however, I am giving up on making it past the first elbow of the Z-shaped learning curve. I've actually been around that particular bend several times, and slightly up the curve, but I've come to the conclusion that if you don't live and breathe Zope development, it's too complex to hold in your brain between one bout and the next. So I'll use Zope (and maybe graduate to Plone) for as much as I'm able, and switch to another technology like PHP or one of the Python web frameworks for building more dynamic content.
I'm not so sure this is a bad model. The argument for purity is that it's easier to use only one language. But if Zope works for me up to a point, and then it becomes much harder to build a page that, for example, stores its fields, than it is to use PHP, and if PHP is reasonably well-designed so that it stays in my brain between bouts of web programming, then I'll be more effective with a hybrid of technologies than I will by remaining pure for the sake of being pure.
The other factor is that I've realized that in my case, I don't build applications on my server that are going to run into scalability problems. But I do run into a big roadblock when trying to develop web applications using the more "pure" approach, and as a result I've been stymied more often than I've been successful.
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